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Should we run the discount?

One company, five decisions, every tool in this path. The plan that wins sells fewer units than the plan that loses — work out why.

Kestrel Tools makes one product: a benchtop clamp. The founder wants to grow, marketing wants a discount, finance wants to refuse an order, and the factory is nearly full. Everything you need is in this table.

Kestrel Tools, this month.

Price

Value
$40
Notes
the same to everyone today

Cost to make one

Value
$24
Notes
materials and labour

Fixed costs

Value
$6,000 / month
Notes
rent, salaries, software — paid regardless

Sales

Value
500 / month
Notes
300 to trade buyers, 200 to individuals

Capacity

Value
650 / month
Notes
one shift, and it is nearly full

And the one thing they have measured — how each type of customer reacts to price:

Trade (workshops)

Units
300
Elasticity
0.8
Meaning
inelastic — they need the tool and buy on schedule

Retail (individuals)

Units
200
Elasticity
2.5
Meaning
elastic — a hobby purchase, easily postponed

Start with the profit, because every answer will be measured against it:

500×($40$24)$6,000=$8,000$6,000=$2,000500 \times (\$40 - \$24) - \$6{,}000 = \$8{,}000 - \$6{,}000 = \$2{,}000
$2,000 a month. That is the number to beat.

How to use this lesson. Each question below is followed by its full solution. Stop at each one and commit to an answer before reading on — three of the five go against the room's first instinct, and you only get that lesson once.

Question 1 · The order finance wants to refuse

A distributor offers to buy 100 units at $30 each, one-off, in a market Kestrel does not currently sell to — so it will not affect any other sale. Finance objects: each unit cost us $36 last month, so this loses $6 a unit.

Accept or refuse?

Accept — it adds $600.

Finance's $36 is real but irrelevant. It is $18,000 of total cost ÷ 500 units, and it contains the $6,000 of fixed cost that gets paid whether or not this order happens. The only cost this decision causes is the $24 of materials and labour for 100 more clamps.

  • Extra revenue: 100 × $30 = $3,000
  • Extra cost: 100 × $24 = $2,400
  • Extra profit: $600 — and fixed costs do not move

Check the factory before saying yes: 500 + 100 = 600 units, against a capacity of 650. It fits, with 50 to spare. What does one more cost?'s rule holds because the fixed cost genuinely is fixed here — hold on to that, because Question 5 is where it stops being true.

Question 2 · The discount marketing wants to run

Marketing proposes 20% off for everyone, for a quarter. "We'll more than make it up on volume." How much volume would "making it up" actually take — and will the discount deliver it?

It would take double the sales. The discount delivers a loss of $816 a month.

Take the two halves separately. First, what the discount does to each sale:

A 20% cut in price is a 50% cut in margin — because the cost does not shrink with the price.

Price

Today
$40
At 20% off
$32

Cost

Today
$24
At 20% off
$24

Margin

Today
$16
At 20% off
$8

Kestrel needs $8,000 of margin just to stand still. At $8 a unit that means 1,000 units — exactly double today's 500. So marketing is not asking for "some" extra volume; they are asking sales to double, to earn precisely what the company earns now.

Second: will it? Doubling volume from a 20% price cut means a 100% quantity response to a 20% price move — an elasticity of 5. Kestrel's most price-sensitive customers sit at 2.5. Nothing in the business is close to 5.

Here is what the discount really produces, segment by segment:

Sales rise by 30% — a result marketing would celebrate — and contribution falls by $2,816.

Trade

Elasticity
0.8
Volume response
+16%
New units
348
Margin
$8
Contribution
$2,784

Retail

Elasticity
2.5
Volume response
+50%
New units
300
Margin
$8
Contribution
$2,400

Total

Elasticity
Volume response
New units
648
Margin
Contribution
$5,184

Against $6,000 of fixed cost, $5,184 of contribution is a loss of $816 a month. The company goes from making $2,000 to losing $816 while selling 148 more units.

And it could not have worked anyway. The 1,000 units the discount needs to break even are more than the factory's 650. Even at an elasticity of 5, Kestrel could not have built them. The plan was arithmetically impossible before it was commercially wrong.

The rule underneath Question 2

That was not bad luck with the numbers. Any discount has a volume it must produce, and it is fixed by two things only — how deep the discount is, and how much margin you started with:

extra volume needed=dmd\text{extra volume needed} = \frac{d}{m - d}
20% off a 40% margin: 20 ÷ (40 − 20) = 100%. Double the sales, to earn the same money.

Drag the discount, then drag the margin, and watch how quickly this stops being survivable.

What a discount actually demands

07515022530008.7517.526.2535Discount (% off list price)Extra volume needed to break even (%)
Extra volume needed
Extra volume needed
100%
Units you'd have to sell
1,000
Elasticity that implies
5.0
New margin per unit
$8
The curve bends upward, sharply. Discounts do not get gradually worse — they get catastrophically worse near the margin.

Two things fall out of that shape. A discount deeper than your margin can never break even, at any volume — the curve simply leaves the page. And the thinner your margin, the more violent the whole picture: at a 25% margin, a 20% discount needs 400% more volume.

So a discount is a bet on elasticity. The formula turns any proposed discount into the elasticity it assumes, and you can check that number against what you know about your customers. Almost nobody does this, which is why almost every discount is a transfer of margin to people who would have paid full price.

Question 3 · One price, two very different customers

Kestrel charges everyone $40, but trade buyers and individuals are not the same customer. Should each segment have its own price — and which way should each one move?

Raise trade by 10%. Leave retail exactly where it is.

Trade first. Elasticity 0.8, so a 10% price rise costs only 8% of them:

24 customers gone, $720 a month gained. Inelastic demand is money left on the table.

Units

Today
300
At $44 (+10%)
276 (−8%)

Margin

Today
$16
At $44 (+10%)
$20

Contribution

Today
$4,800
At $44 (+10%)
$5,520

Now retail, and this is where instinct fails. They are elastic at 2.5, so the received wisdom is that they are the ones to discount — cut 10% and volume jumps 25%.

The discount lifts revenue by $1,000 and costs $200 of profit. So does the price rise. Both directions lose.

Units

Today
200
At $36 (−10%)
250 (+25%)
At $44 (+10%)
150 (−25%)

Margin

Today
$16
At $36 (−10%)
$12
At $44 (+10%)
$20

Revenue

Today
$8,000
At $36 (−10%)
$9,000
At $44 (+10%)
$6,600

Contribution

Today
$3,200
At $36 (−10%)
$3,000
At $44 (+10%)
$3,000

Read the discount column again. Revenue up $1,000, volume up 25%, profit down $200. Every dashboard in the company would show that quarter as a success.

Elastic does not mean "discount works". It means revenue responds. Whether profit responds depends on the margin you gave up to get it — and at a 40% margin, an elasticity of 2.5 is not enough. The formula from Question 2 says a 10% discount needs 33% more volume; 2.5 elasticity delivers 25%. Short.

And because the price rise loses exactly as much, retail is already priced correctly. Both directions being worse is what "you are at the top of the hill" looks like from the ground — the same peak Where the money peaks drew from above.

Question 4 · Put it together

Three decisions are now made. Assemble them, check the factory, and compare against marketing's plan.

$3,320 a month — a 66% increase — from selling 72 fewer units than the discount would have.

576 units against a capacity of 650 — it fits, with 74 to spare.

Trade

Units
276
Price
$44
Margin
$20
Contribution
$5,520

Retail

Units
200
Price
$40
Margin
$16
Contribution
$3,200

Bulk order

Units
100
Price
$30
Margin
$6
Contribution
$600

Total

Units
576
Price
Margin
Contribution
$9,320

Subtract the $6,000 of fixed cost and set the three plans side by side:

The losing plan sells the most units. The winning plan is second on volume and first on everything that matters.

Today

Units sold
500
Revenue
$20,000
Monthly profit
$2,000

Marketing's 20% discount

Units sold
648
Revenue
$20,736
Monthly profit
−$816

The plan above

Units sold
576
Revenue
$23,144
Monthly profit
$3,320

That row is the whole hour. Volume is not the goal, revenue is not the goal, and the two plans that look most different on a sales dashboard are ranked in the opposite order by the bank. $3,320 against −$816 — a swing of over $4,100 a month, from arithmetic that took ten minutes and no new customers, no new product and no new spending.

Question 5 · The factory is nearly full

With 74 units of headroom left, the founder asks about a second shift: $3,000 a month of extra fixed cost, raising capacity from 650 to 1,000. The only demand Kestrel can reach at short notice is more bulk business at $30. Worth it?

No — it falls $456 short. But the reason is a pricing problem, not a capacity one.

Question 1's rule does not apply here, and spotting that is the point of this question. There, the fixed cost was untouched by the decision. Here the decision creates $3,000 of new fixed cost, so it belongs in the arithmetic.

  • New capacity: 1,000 units. Already committed: 576. Space to fill: 424 units.
  • Bulk at $30 earns $30 − $24 = $6 a unit.
  • Best possible case: 424 × $6 = $2,544.
  • Against $3,000 of new cost: short by $456 — and that is assuming every single new unit sells.

So: no. And notice how thin it is — the plan fails even at perfect execution, which means it fails badly at realistic execution.

But turn the question around. What bulk price would justify the shift?

margin needed=$3,000424=$7.08price=$24+$7.08=$31.08\text{margin needed} = \frac{\$3{,}000}{424} = \$7.08 \quad\Rightarrow\quad \text{price} = \$24 + \$7.08 = \$31.08

At $32 the shift returns 424 × $8 = $3,392 against $3,000 — it makes $392 and buys room to grow. A dollar and change on the bulk price turns the answer from no to yes.

Which is the last lesson of the path. "Should we add capacity?" looked like a question about the factory. It was a question about the price — and so was the discount, and so was the bulk order, and so was every other decision in this case.

The five moves

The $30 order

The tool
marginal, not average cost
What it caught
a profitable order finance was about to refuse

The 20% discount

The tool
margin math + elasticity
What it caught
a plan needing double the volume and more than the factory holds

Segment pricing

The tool
elasticity per customer type
What it caught
revenue rising while profit fell

The combined plan

The tool
contribution, then fixed cost
What it caught
fewer units, far more money

The second shift

The tool
marginal cost when fixed costs move
What it caught
a capacity question that was really a pricing question

None of this needed calculus, a model, or data the company did not already have. It needed five questions asked in the right order — and the discipline to check what a plan assumes before checking whether you like it.