Module · The decision
Should we run the discount?
Lesson 5 of 5 · 18 min
Kestrel Tools makes one product: a benchtop clamp. The founder wants to grow, marketing wants a discount, finance wants to refuse an order, and the factory is nearly full. Everything you need is in this table.
| Item | Value | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Price | $40 | the same to everyone today |
| Cost to make one | $24 | materials and labour |
| Fixed costs | $6,000 / month | rent, salaries, software — paid regardless |
| Sales | 500 / month | 300 to trade buyers, 200 to individuals |
| Capacity | 650 / month | one shift, and it is nearly full |
Price
- Value
- $40
- Notes
- the same to everyone today
Cost to make one
- Value
- $24
- Notes
- materials and labour
Fixed costs
- Value
- $6,000 / month
- Notes
- rent, salaries, software — paid regardless
Sales
- Value
- 500 / month
- Notes
- 300 to trade buyers, 200 to individuals
Capacity
- Value
- 650 / month
- Notes
- one shift, and it is nearly full
And the one thing they have measured — how each type of customer reacts to price:
| Segment | Units | Elasticity | Meaning |
|---|---|---|---|
| Trade (workshops) | 300 | 0.8 | inelastic — they need the tool and buy on schedule |
| Retail (individuals) | 200 | 2.5 | elastic — a hobby purchase, easily postponed |
Trade (workshops)
- Units
- 300
- Elasticity
- 0.8
- Meaning
- inelastic — they need the tool and buy on schedule
Retail (individuals)
- Units
- 200
- Elasticity
- 2.5
- Meaning
- elastic — a hobby purchase, easily postponed
Start with the profit, because every answer will be measured against it:
How to use this lesson. Each question below is followed by its full solution. Stop at each one and commit to an answer before reading on — three of the five go against the room's first instinct, and you only get that lesson once.
Question 1 · The order finance wants to refuse
A distributor offers to buy 100 units at $30 each, one-off, in a market Kestrel does not currently sell to — so it will not affect any other sale. Finance objects: each unit cost us $36 last month, so this loses $6 a unit.
Accept or refuse?
Accept — it adds $600.
Finance's $36 is real but irrelevant. It is $18,000 of total cost ÷ 500 units, and it contains the $6,000 of fixed cost that gets paid whether or not this order happens. The only cost this decision causes is the $24 of materials and labour for 100 more clamps.
- Extra revenue: 100 × $30 = $3,000
- Extra cost: 100 × $24 = $2,400
- Extra profit: $600 — and fixed costs do not move
Check the factory before saying yes: 500 + 100 = 600 units, against a capacity of 650. It fits, with 50 to spare. What does one more cost?'s rule holds because the fixed cost genuinely is fixed here — hold on to that, because Question 5 is where it stops being true.
Question 2 · The discount marketing wants to run
Marketing proposes 20% off for everyone, for a quarter. "We'll more than make it up on volume." How much volume would "making it up" actually take — and will the discount deliver it?
It would take double the sales. The discount delivers a loss of $816 a month.
Take the two halves separately. First, what the discount does to each sale:
| Today | At 20% off | |
|---|---|---|
| Price | $40 | $32 |
| Cost | $24 | $24 |
| Margin | $16 | $8 |
Price
- Today
- $40
- At 20% off
- $32
Cost
- Today
- $24
- At 20% off
- $24
Margin
- Today
- $16
- At 20% off
- $8
Kestrel needs $8,000 of margin just to stand still. At $8 a unit that means 1,000 units — exactly double today's 500. So marketing is not asking for "some" extra volume; they are asking sales to double, to earn precisely what the company earns now.
Second: will it? Doubling volume from a 20% price cut means a 100% quantity response to a 20% price move — an elasticity of 5. Kestrel's most price-sensitive customers sit at 2.5. Nothing in the business is close to 5.
Here is what the discount really produces, segment by segment:
| Segment | Elasticity | Volume response | New units | Margin | Contribution |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Trade | 0.8 | +16% | 348 | $8 | $2,784 |
| Retail | 2.5 | +50% | 300 | $8 | $2,400 |
| Total | 648 | $5,184 |
Trade
- Elasticity
- 0.8
- Volume response
- +16%
- New units
- 348
- Margin
- $8
- Contribution
- $2,784
Retail
- Elasticity
- 2.5
- Volume response
- +50%
- New units
- 300
- Margin
- $8
- Contribution
- $2,400
Total
- Elasticity
- Volume response
- New units
- 648
- Margin
- Contribution
- $5,184
Against $6,000 of fixed cost, $5,184 of contribution is a loss of $816 a month. The company goes from making $2,000 to losing $816 while selling 148 more units.
And it could not have worked anyway. The 1,000 units the discount needs to break even are more than the factory's 650. Even at an elasticity of 5, Kestrel could not have built them. The plan was arithmetically impossible before it was commercially wrong.
The rule underneath Question 2
That was not bad luck with the numbers. Any discount has a volume it must produce, and it is fixed by two things only — how deep the discount is, and how much margin you started with:
Drag the discount, then drag the margin, and watch how quickly this stops being survivable.
What a discount actually demands
- Extra volume needed
- 100%
- Units you'd have to sell
- 1,000
- Elasticity that implies
- 5.0
- New margin per unit
- $8
Two things fall out of that shape. A discount deeper than your margin can never break even, at any volume — the curve simply leaves the page. And the thinner your margin, the more violent the whole picture: at a 25% margin, a 20% discount needs 400% more volume.
So a discount is a bet on elasticity. The formula turns any proposed discount into the elasticity it assumes, and you can check that number against what you know about your customers. Almost nobody does this, which is why almost every discount is a transfer of margin to people who would have paid full price.
Question 3 · One price, two very different customers
Kestrel charges everyone $40, but trade buyers and individuals are not the same customer. Should each segment have its own price — and which way should each one move?
Raise trade by 10%. Leave retail exactly where it is.
Trade first. Elasticity 0.8, so a 10% price rise costs only 8% of them:
| Trade | Today | At $44 (+10%) |
|---|---|---|
| Units | 300 | 276 (−8%) |
| Margin | $16 | $20 |
| Contribution | $4,800 | $5,520 |
Units
- Today
- 300
- At $44 (+10%)
- 276 (−8%)
Margin
- Today
- $16
- At $44 (+10%)
- $20
Contribution
- Today
- $4,800
- At $44 (+10%)
- $5,520
Now retail, and this is where instinct fails. They are elastic at 2.5, so the received wisdom is that they are the ones to discount — cut 10% and volume jumps 25%.
| Retail | Today | At $36 (−10%) | At $44 (+10%) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Units | 200 | 250 (+25%) | 150 (−25%) |
| Margin | $16 | $12 | $20 |
| Revenue | $8,000 | $9,000 | $6,600 |
| Contribution | $3,200 | $3,000 | $3,000 |
Units
- Today
- 200
- At $36 (−10%)
- 250 (+25%)
- At $44 (+10%)
- 150 (−25%)
Margin
- Today
- $16
- At $36 (−10%)
- $12
- At $44 (+10%)
- $20
Revenue
- Today
- $8,000
- At $36 (−10%)
- $9,000
- At $44 (+10%)
- $6,600
Contribution
- Today
- $3,200
- At $36 (−10%)
- $3,000
- At $44 (+10%)
- $3,000
Read the discount column again. Revenue up $1,000, volume up 25%, profit down $200. Every dashboard in the company would show that quarter as a success.
Elastic does not mean "discount works". It means revenue responds. Whether profit responds depends on the margin you gave up to get it — and at a 40% margin, an elasticity of 2.5 is not enough. The formula from Question 2 says a 10% discount needs 33% more volume; 2.5 elasticity delivers 25%. Short.
And because the price rise loses exactly as much, retail is already priced correctly. Both directions being worse is what "you are at the top of the hill" looks like from the ground — the same peak Where the money peaks drew from above.
Question 4 · Put it together
Three decisions are now made. Assemble them, check the factory, and compare against marketing's plan.
$3,320 a month — a 66% increase — from selling 72 fewer units than the discount would have.
| Source | Units | Price | Margin | Contribution |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Trade | 276 | $44 | $20 | $5,520 |
| Retail | 200 | $40 | $16 | $3,200 |
| Bulk order | 100 | $30 | $6 | $600 |
| Total | 576 | $9,320 |
Trade
- Units
- 276
- Price
- $44
- Margin
- $20
- Contribution
- $5,520
Retail
- Units
- 200
- Price
- $40
- Margin
- $16
- Contribution
- $3,200
Bulk order
- Units
- 100
- Price
- $30
- Margin
- $6
- Contribution
- $600
Total
- Units
- 576
- Price
- Margin
- Contribution
- $9,320
Subtract the $6,000 of fixed cost and set the three plans side by side:
| Plan | Units sold | Revenue | Monthly profit |
|---|---|---|---|
| Today | 500 | $20,000 | $2,000 |
| Marketing's 20% discount | 648 | $20,736 | −$816 |
| The plan above | 576 | $23,144 | $3,320 |
Today
- Units sold
- 500
- Revenue
- $20,000
- Monthly profit
- $2,000
Marketing's 20% discount
- Units sold
- 648
- Revenue
- $20,736
- Monthly profit
- −$816
The plan above
- Units sold
- 576
- Revenue
- $23,144
- Monthly profit
- $3,320
That row is the whole hour. Volume is not the goal, revenue is not the goal, and the two plans that look most different on a sales dashboard are ranked in the opposite order by the bank. $3,320 against −$816 — a swing of over $4,100 a month, from arithmetic that took ten minutes and no new customers, no new product and no new spending.
Question 5 · The factory is nearly full
With 74 units of headroom left, the founder asks about a second shift: $3,000 a month of extra fixed cost, raising capacity from 650 to 1,000. The only demand Kestrel can reach at short notice is more bulk business at $30. Worth it?
No — it falls $456 short. But the reason is a pricing problem, not a capacity one.
Question 1's rule does not apply here, and spotting that is the point of this question. There, the fixed cost was untouched by the decision. Here the decision creates $3,000 of new fixed cost, so it belongs in the arithmetic.
- New capacity: 1,000 units. Already committed: 576. Space to fill: 424 units.
- Bulk at $30 earns $30 − $24 = $6 a unit.
- Best possible case: 424 × $6 = $2,544.
- Against $3,000 of new cost: short by $456 — and that is assuming every single new unit sells.
So: no. And notice how thin it is — the plan fails even at perfect execution, which means it fails badly at realistic execution.
But turn the question around. What bulk price would justify the shift?
At $32 the shift returns 424 × $8 = $3,392 against $3,000 — it makes $392 and buys room to grow. A dollar and change on the bulk price turns the answer from no to yes.
Which is the last lesson of the path. "Should we add capacity?" looked like a question about the factory. It was a question about the price — and so was the discount, and so was the bulk order, and so was every other decision in this case.
The five moves
| Question | The tool | What it caught |
|---|---|---|
| The $30 order | marginal, not average cost | a profitable order finance was about to refuse |
| The 20% discount | margin math + elasticity | a plan needing double the volume and more than the factory holds |
| Segment pricing | elasticity per customer type | revenue rising while profit fell |
| The combined plan | contribution, then fixed cost | fewer units, far more money |
| The second shift | marginal cost when fixed costs move | a capacity question that was really a pricing question |
The $30 order
- The tool
- marginal, not average cost
- What it caught
- a profitable order finance was about to refuse
The 20% discount
- The tool
- margin math + elasticity
- What it caught
- a plan needing double the volume and more than the factory holds
Segment pricing
- The tool
- elasticity per customer type
- What it caught
- revenue rising while profit fell
The combined plan
- The tool
- contribution, then fixed cost
- What it caught
- fewer units, far more money
The second shift
- The tool
- marginal cost when fixed costs move
- What it caught
- a capacity question that was really a pricing question
None of this needed calculus, a model, or data the company did not already have. It needed five questions asked in the right order — and the discipline to check what a plan assumes before checking whether you like it.

